why advertise then dont even reply ?
Post replyWednesday 13 Jul 2016, 3:19pm
Some of the replies you get on here are MORE than compensation for the silence.
Replying to an ad. placed by a band a few years back, the response came from the bassist who had been in touch with the drummer concerning my interest. Well, what the prat did was tie in the drummers response with his own email in reply. Considering we'd never met or even heard of each other, the drummer seemed convinced i was nothing more than a wannabe bedroom player and therefore a timewaster not worthy of their company. A bit strong coming from someone who's never left the Kent workingmen's club scene i thought. I've been playing for nigh on 50 years and trod the boards since i was 13. I'm extremely happy to say they seem to have a job keeping players......but no wonder why eh !
Then you get the ' friendly bunch.....NO ego's'. Now, you can bet your bottom that this is not entirely true......the email address reading 'flamehairedwarrior@...........' but the proof is in the eating, so yeah, you turn up and indeed your fears are fact......it is indeed some talentless tw*t with ginger hair and an attitude problem.........i need a lay down now.
Wednesday 13 Jul 2016, 7:41pm
Well I'm just waiting for the add that reads "NO EXPECTATIONS " ! that would be a breath of fresh air.
I have no f***king idea why amuter or unfamous possers litter their advets with a caalouge of requirments. all bands are beyound the control of individuals unless one member is handing out pay packets every Friday.
Like putting up no time wasters no egos must have a good sense of GOSH how they going to stop the fakers from crashing through that requirment of course you only find out about people in time.
Keep Rocking
TD
Wednesday 13 Jul 2016, 8:27pm
Let’s go back to the beginning. All of you people who seriously want to join a band:
Pay some money and go on the “other” sites where other guys have paid money and are serious.
Join my Band is free. You haven’t paid any money and yet you expect spectacular results. It doesn’t work like that. You expect anybody who signs up for this site, for nothing, owes you respect, good manners, honesty and will respond to you, even if they feel it ain’t gonna work.
Smell the coffee guys and stop crying in your beer.
You can moan about this for as much as you want, but will it change anything ? Of course not.
Wednesday 13 Jul 2016, 8:40pm
You best let Tricky know where to find them then fella.
Wednesday 13 Jul 2016, 11:21pm
[quote="velvetmouth"]
Pay some money and go on the “other” sites where other guys have paid money and are serious.
[/quote]
Why pay money to meet time wasters when you can meet them here for free?
More seriously, you'll find plenty of comments on these forums basically saying that paid sites are just as bad as unpaid sites when it comes to time wasters.
Thursday 14 Jul 2016, 12:19am
Ah the good old days.....the numerous £10 ads. in Melody Maker, the constant £20 pub 'meet ups', the umpteen £30 quid rehearsals... and all that was just auditioning......yeah...it was good training but a tad expensive.The benefit NOW is, even after 14 pints (£49), i can spot a tw*t a mile away, even further by the cut of their email. MandoMan gets my vote.
Thursday 14 Jul 2016, 10:31am
[quote="quaid"]Ah the good old days.....the numerous £10 ads. in Melody Maker, the constant £20 pub 'meet ups', the umpteen £30 quid rehearsals... and all that was just auditioning......yeah...it was good training but a tad expensive.The benefit NOW is, even after 14 pints (£49), i can spot a tw*t a mile away, even further by the cut of their email. MandoMan gets my vote.[/quote]
I concur +1!
Thursday 14 Jul 2016, 12:18pm
[quote="quaid"]You best let Tricky know where to find them then fella.[/quote]
ha ha I'm actually sorted for band mates cheers and it cost me FA. It was not on here it was actually through music shop adverts and getting to know people through people. The only slot I need to fill is the drummer as always but that will be done in the real world too.
Velvet Mouth flaming for the sake of arguement ha ha eh ! telling people that if they pay up on another site this will yield results is misleading . From someone who has done that and got the bank statements to prove it I can assure people that you will meet as many time wasters through pay driven sites like Bandmix as you will here. Face it is just a sympton of the world online full of bull s;';';';'ers cranks and people with warped ways of getting an ego boost. Studies have found that women use dating sites as a tool to get a boost about their sex appeal.
i'm sure the same thing follows here.
As for having a go at people being ticked off about the lack of etiquate on here pull your head in for a whille for people that have no idea how the online world works it can be very frustrating and thats absloutly understandable.
So in short don't be tempted into forking out for it try other avenues like Gumtree and music shop ads.
The smaller retailers are normally more helpful for this.
Keep Rocking
TD
Saturday 16 Jul 2016, 4:36pm
There are a lot of Facebook groups now that work better than sites likes this. I found my band through this site and we have been together nearly 4 years now but a second band project I am currently forming has been more exhausting, especially when you contact members who are advertising their services/abilities that exactly match your own requirements and they can't even be arsed to get back to you.
Go on Facebook, type "Musicians" then the name of your area in the FB search box. Guaranteed you will get more success than here.
Saturday 30 Jul 2016, 4:59pm
Hi to all
I've not played live now for almost four and a half years cos of ill health. Just bringing myself back up to speed.
I agree with most of the comments here...You tend to find people who are not yet good enough to play live.
People who don't show....or the worst ones...those who come to the audition, but only to audition you.
I know it's a two way street, but I can say that most of my old band mates have ended up in very good bands.
BUT
I have found one band off this site and audtioned and joined them even though they were very average...they had managed to find a niche in the market and
so although I hated the music, I liked the cash.
I have found that once you start playing, you end up talking to other bands and eventually through people leaving other bands etc...
you end up being asked to join better quality bands.
So the site kind of works in that it can get you started...
Having read some of the blogs I can see why you are so upset. I don't think you'll find the top class people you are looking for as they will be in bands already, and can pick and choose who they play for, simply by word of mouth.
I think this is mainly for the average pub band players, and people who play mostly for enjoyment, rather than money.
I know...occasionally you do see a well known local band put out the word for someone, but that's very rare. Most of these semi-pro bands already have deps for their members and so the deps just end up in the band if someone leaves.
For me it was enjoyment first, then the cash.
Best pub gigs I did I got £20 for the night...and loved it. I would have paid them £20 to play!
Anyone around this way who wants a half decent old bass player, let me know. Just covers for fun at first.
The main difference between a working covers band and the non working covers band?
They play the songs well!
Some bands I've heard...oh dear... tempo!/sloppy!/loud instead of tight and so on.
Sunday 28 Aug 2016, 7:13pm
Messages went missing on here by some thread on this forum I guess. People might no respond for a while if they got ill, etc
Saturday 26 Nov 2016, 10:46pm
Apathy! That's the problem...
From a member looking and advertising for a vocalist...
The really annoying thing is when you get a response to your ad... you reply
"...great, I'll send you some tracks..."
and they reply
"...Cool, I'll have a listen..."
and you're already imagining that Glastonbury debut, the O2 opener - then, the tumbleweed rolls across in the near distance whilst you tentatively ask
"...how'd you get on with the songs?..."
Silence - Silence - oh & Silence!
You check the "read messages" like ditched lover... mmmm, they read it last week but still haven't replied!!!!
Aren't we all Musicians, shouldn't we be family - what's so hard about having the courtesy to say to your peer group "...hey man, it's not for me..." or "...thanks folks, but I'm sorted..."
Or is it just me/us????
Sunday 27 Nov 2016, 5:34pm
When someone advertises for a musician and you reply think of it as a job interview, once the connection is made the advertiser asks you questions then you reply and ask them questions at the end you both have an idea of each others expectations, though should I ask an open ended question and you give me a one word reply like I had the other day I'm going to assume you are not the candidate I'm looking for if you cant hold a discussion about the music you like to perform just how the hell are you going to communicate within the band.
Sunday 27 Nov 2016, 11:13pm
I know it's not the be-all & end-all of advertising, but I tend to shy away from ad.s that are badly phrased or badly spelt. I'm not anally retentive about it, it's just that I get a kind of mental picture of some half-educated goon who's about to waste my time. In which case I don't reply to their ad., or 'thanks, but no thanks' to their reply to my ad.
Any ad. on this - or ANY site - is your shop window. I'm not particularly well educated, but if I'm going to be putting something that could affect my future (in music or otherwise) into an advert, it's going to be right.
Spend time over it. Check it and re-check it. Does it really give out the message you want people to receive? Yes, I'm more interested in what they do musically, but their level of intelligence gives me a clue. I may be missing a great musician here, somewhere, but I ain't getting any trolls either.
I guess it's a case of 'clean up your act & hang in there'.
Good luck.
Monday 28 Nov 2016, 10:27am
So if I've got this right Key's and Strings , 8/10 your going to judge a musician on their ad as if their looking a for a job at another Costa Coffee or sumthing.
40 years after punk and we have come to this type of banality in the music world !!!!!
I guess Jimmi Hendrix and countless other talented individuals would not have stood a chance getting into your amazing band because they probally could not have written such an ad.
Spelling and Grammer is not a sign of intellegence any way its a sign of a A1 pedantic mind set. It means you can learn things parrot fashion. It demonstrates nothing of your own rational , logic or any cretivity of the old grey matter.
There are plenty of well educated goons mugging us all off as a nation in the HOP.
Actually Velvet Mouth JMB is not entirely free you pay to get your add fetured, shelling out loads on here or any other site , does not gurentee the right people comming forward, in fact it obviosuly just means you have more time wasters getting in touch
on their rounds, granted you'll maybe get a couple of genuine musicans but the amount of time , stress and paitance you will have to put aside for the time wasters might not always be worth it. Looking for bandmates is like playing the lottery you can spend £1 or a tenner in the end subtracting the excess expenduture you end up with the same odds.
Steve Howe once said words to the effect that he got into music to escape rules . I reckon todays music world is more or less rules and rigid norms.
No wonder there is so much that is depressive in the "rock scene ".
I think people bemmoinig the lack of suitable bandmates out there really betray their own problems being the answer to their own barren situation. Judding people on emails and fralities says it all. No band mate is a perfect well rounded individual no human being is. I would think people who claim music is their life and being in a band would get the best and most reliable muscians they can find into their band. Writing a perfect covering letter learnign to say the right things is a skill that any pyscho or time waster
can learn. If someone is clummsy in their communication at least that shows their a real kind of person.
Also many reject others when they feel thretened by talent that might eclipse their own. It happened to Mozart on ocasion.
Those two assets are a scarce rarierity these days never mind the dating site specfis you want to throw into that. Quad if you have to spend £149 before you spot a tw*t maybe you just enjoy drinking more then you do getting down to business mate.
I have worked with a singer who spent his afternoons on the dole doing drugs , never had a real job and if you were stuck in the pub with him you'd regret it in time and apart from music we had nothing in common but we still got a band up and running.
A lot of supposidly great muscians and supposidly hard done by talents find themselves constently looking for band members becuase they are using a filtering system based on looking for a perfect bandmate that does not exist. The internet has deluded a lot of medicore talents into believing their great and only their opinion matters and their judgments are impeciable. Doesent work so well in the real world.
Of course I can name quit a few classic rock band line ups didn't get on even to the point of loathing one another; But they stuck around long enuff to line their pockets set out with what they aimed to do and bring the music to the people.
Keep Rocking
TD
Monday 28 Nov 2016, 6:50pm
Well Tricky......you've touched a nerve there old son...you've made me stand back and take a good look at myself. Thanks to you i've now enrolled in a group to help me back into the light and leave the torture that drink can cause far behind me. I'm on the first steps to recovery. Yep......i've joined the R.A.C.
Monday 28 Nov 2016, 9:31pm
Then at least something good came out of it, quaid!
Tricky, I guess you made the spelling mistakes on purpose to prove a point, No?
I only mentioned that it's MY way of looking at ads., not anyone else'.
Here y'go....
sumthing - cretivity - fetured - gurentee - obviosuly - paitance - expenduture - bemmoinig - Judding - fralities - learnign - clummsy - ocasion - rarierity - specfis - supposidly - impeciable - Doesent - enuff.
I rest my case, M'lud.
Wednesday 30 Nov 2016, 9:43am
I've started 2 bands from this site over the years and replace people as they move on, JMB has been successful for me. Yes some time wasters and some no replies, but you are dealing with that species called humans.
And as eluded above the way you word thing make a huge difference to your responses. and as for instant responses you do have to wait for musicians to come available and it may not be at the same time you place the original add, keep trying, take care in what you say and don't be too narrow in your requirements.
and, I've noticed, some people place adds every other day... that gives the impression of desperate or a Richard Cranium (Dick head). I go back to the original add and tweak every so often and if no success re-add 2 weeks later with a total re-worded add.
Tuesday 3 Jan 2017, 8:37pm
I always reply if someone send me message. Many of us have a too big expectation, for all we need time. I have bad experience with people who posted here. I can do all good and keep believe and hope find someone who is good to my band.
Sunday 15 Jan 2017, 10:45am
I've found that most JMBers have already got everything detailed in their minds before they start typing in here. Anything different in any way is rejected. Life always is different to how we think it will be.
The other big problem is that they don't know what they want until you bring them something. It will be not what they're looking for. They will reject it, no matter what. You will not get a second chance.
There's a survey on Making Music. The writer invites suggestions to make it as wide-ranging as it can be, but every suggestion is rejected. The suggester is told that the question was meant to be that narrow and is ridiculed for being offended. I'm not even surprised at such thinking; that's normal for Cyberland.
If anyone is too rude to answer you, you're better off without them.
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